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Executive Producer Brenda VanLengen joined the Speak with Presence podcast for a recent episode to discuss If Not For Them. The Speak with Presence podcast features interviews with influential leaders using their voices with confidence rather than perfection.

“I played in college because of those who paved the way, I coached at the high school and college level , and I’ve been a broadcaster for almost three decades,” VanLengen said on the show. “I owe all these things I’ve been able to experience in my life to those that paved the way, those that fought the battles, changed social norms, made cultural shifts, did things when it was not popular to do them.”

You can listen to the full episode below:

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